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TEEMA: HOIATUS: PETTURID OSTJAD UK-ST

11:03 27.04.2012
t6nnp6nn
Hoiatus: petturid ostjad UK-st
Võttis minuga ühendust inglise keeles sell ja ütles, et tahab osta minu autot.
Tuli välja, et ta ise on UK-s ja saadab shipping firma autole järgi.
Väidab, et teeb ülekande ja siis saadab firma autole järgi.
Saadab võltsitud panga kinnituse - raha on pangas ootel. Summa on suurem sinna otsa on lisatud transpordikulu, mille mina pidavat kohe saatma Western Union rahakaardiga transpordifirmasse.

näitemängu Tegelased on järgmised:

ostja:
Erich Brunhuber
e.brunhuber1@gmail.com
IP: 65.49.68.174
http://www.ip-adress.com/whois/65.49.68.174
(USA CAlifornia) (zombi arvuti?)


transpordifirma:
Global Courier & Logistics Company
G.L.C.A@fastservice.com
Receiver's Name: Michael Scholes
Address: 23 St Thomas's Ln
City : London
Postal Code : E9 7PW
Country : Great Britain(UK)


PANK:
Scotiabank
Alberta G. Cefis
Executive Vice-President & Head, Global Transaction Banking
Scotia Bank Management.
scotiatransferalerts@accountant.com

Kõik need sellid on siis selgelt petturid - olge valvsad.

Muudetud 27.4.12 11:16

11:59 27.04.2012
Nongrata11 (registreerimata)
Re: Hoiatus: petturid ostjad UK-st
Vana näidend, piisab, kui öelda, et cash against car ja jutt lõppeb.
12:05 27.04.2012
t6nnp6nn
Re: Hoiatus: petturid ostjad UK-st
skeem on muidugi vana.

edastasin info politseile teadmiseks ka ja sealt inimene väitis et just hiljuti üks inimene oli reaalselt saatnud sama skeemiga oma taskust ära reaalsed 800 EURi.

Oluline, et nende nimed oleks avalikult kirjas ja iga mats, kes viitsib mõnda neist guugeldada seda posti näeks.
12:17 27.04.2012
Nongrata11 (registreerimata)
Re: Hoiatus: petturid ostjad UK-st
Meenub ütlus, et lollidelt peabki jne. Peab ikka päris juhm ja kergeusklik olema.
13:28 28.04.2012
danielsan (registreerimata)
Re: Hoiatus: petturid ostjad UK-st
Mulle tuli sama meil, saatjaks e.brunhuber1@gmail.com
Kirja sisu:
Just viewed your listing and will like to purchase it. Do you still have this item available up for sale?kindly send me more details about the condition of the item.Thanks and will be looking forward to read from you soon.

Mingeid kontaktandmeid ei olnud

Esimese asjana googeldasin meiliaadressi ja leidsin siin selle postituse!

Tänud t6nnp6nnile!
13:57 28.04.2012
x (registreerimata)
Re: Hoiatus: petturid ostjad UK-st
kas keelgi oskab midagi nende eriti odavate autode kohta öelda mis hiljaaegu müüki on jõudnud, näiteks : http://www.auto24.ee/used/749848
ka mingi petuskeem?
14:54 28.04.2012
ah nii (registreerimata)
Re: Hoiatus: petturid ostjad UK-st
See audi kuulutus on piisavalt kahtlane ,pildid on tehtud kuskil lääne euroopas ,meil pole sellise kivikattega suuri parklaid ega vastava arhitektuuriga maju nagu piltide taustal paistab. Sellist prügikonteinerit pole ka näinud ühelgi Eesti prügifirmal.
Topitakse mõtetuid kuulutusi ,muidugi kui kedagi huvitab eks helistage ja küsige .
Hind on muidugi mittevastav meil müügis autodele .Selle hinnaga ei müüda selliseid ka Leedus avariilistena.
14:57 28.04.2012
ah nii (registreerimata)
Re: Hoiatus: petturid ostjad UK-st
Cabrio AUDI 4 ust ja 5 istekohta , ha haa haa
08:44 09.05.2012
guids (registreerimata)
Re: Hoiatus: petturid ostjad UK-st
"ostja" kontakt on: Vieten Guido <v.guido05@gmail.com>

Ok,good..I'm quite satisfied with the condition and price. I will be
paying the Bank transfer charges from my account and i will be paying
directly into your bank account without any delay, and i hope you have
a bank account. If you have one already, just send me your bank
details, so once i receive the details i will go ahead with the
payment through Bank transfer and then i will contact my shipping
company after you get the payment. I will need your home address for
it to be Picked Up by the Shipping Company..

I was just about to make the payment when i had this little problem
with the picking up,I got an email from my agent..i taught i included
that in my previous email.they said they won't come and pick up the
car unless i pay them the agent commission fee first in order to be
able to schedule a pick up time ,and my pick up agent head quarters is
in the United Kingdom and all commission payments made for pick up,
from anywhere in the world is sent to their head quarters in the Uk
and the only form of payments they accept is western union money
transfer and i tried to pay online but i will need a credit card which
i didn't bring along, and there is no post office(there is usually a
western union section in most post offices) or any western union agent
offshore! so i have to ask you to help me with the pick up fees, i
will include the 600euro they charged to pick it up and take it my
home(1st class treatment), to the payments i will send through bank
transfer after i have made the payments, i will need you to help me
send the 600euro to my pick up agent through western union money
transfer, the western union money transfer can be made at a post
office near to you,there is always a western union agent in most post
offices or online at www.westernunion.com .I will be making the
payments shortly and will email you as soon as it has been

08:57 09.05.2012
444mittekeegi (registreerimata)
Re: Hoiatus: petturid ostjad UK-st
Kodanikud, mitte et mul mingit seost oleks automüügiga aga aafrikast (või mujalt) tulnud petuskeeme võrrelda autoda mida müüakse tallinnas, mille müüja perekonnanimi, aadress, firma tulid välja 2 minutiga kasutades googlet ei ole võrreldavad.
Helistage kui soovite osta, ei tasu nii lihtsa koha peal spekuleerida :)
09:58 09.05.2012
EI (registreerimata)
Re: Hoiatus: petturid ostjad UK-st
http://www.auto24.ee/used/749848
see audi on eesti regirtris ju Mercedes Bens VITO 111 CDI
10:14 09.05.2012
zerblat
Re: Hoiatus: petturid ostjad UK-st
Ka Iirimaal ollakse huvitatud vanadest "valepidi rooliga autodest" :) :

YES

On 1/24/12, Zerblat wrote:
> Hi,
>
> shall I send You my bank account number (are You sure
> Your interest of)?
>
> WBR,
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Zerblat
> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 10:01 AM
> To: Daniel Markus
> Subject: Re: VAZ 2101 1.2 R4 44 kW -74
>
> OK, I can offer you additional discount 10%, so the final price plus the
> registration costs of change of ownership. Let me know your opinion.
>
> Car is located in Tallinn, Estonia. How do you plan to organize the
> transport and delivery?
>
> Bank transfer is OK - shall I send You my bank account number (are You sure
> Your interest of)?
>
> WBR,
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel Markus
> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 8:26 AM
> To: Zerblat
> Subject: Re: VAZ 2101 1.2 R4 44 kW -74
>
> How long have you owned it?? and what's your actual price for it. I
> love a bargain, so i would like to get it as soon as i can and i would
> be able to make payment through Bank transfer... Let me know your
> price for it .i will make all transportation preparations for it to be
> transported to my home in London . How i wish to come and view it but
> am not around now....am busy sailing,am in a ship right now at
> Dublin......I will also like you to know that i will be paying via
> Bank transfer...due to the distance as i am in Dublin presently.
>
> On 1/12/12, Zerblat wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Yes, the car is still available - if you want to come watch?
>>
>> WBR,
>>
>> From: daniel.markus22@gmail.com
>> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 3:16 PM
>> To: zerblat
>> Subject: VAZ 2101 1.2 R4 44 kW -74
>>
>> Teile on saadetud lisainfo päring Kuldsest Börsist:
>>
>> Hello
>> Please let me know if this Automobile is still available for sale?
>> greeting
>>
>> Kuulutust näeb aadressil:
>> http://www.kuldnebors.ee/9584993

Muudetud 9.5.12 11:14

11:12 09.05.2012
zerblat
Re: Hoiatus: petturid ostjad UK-st
Maksekorraldus ise ka:

From: Service@BankofAmerica.com (BankofAmericatransferalerts@accountant.com)
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 10:05 AM
To: zerblat
Subject: Online AUTOMOBILE Payment Transfer From Bank of America - Transfer Number :- SW3100571978KMS


The Online Transfer Order From Bank of America® Has Been Approved.


TRANSFER NUMBER: SW3100571978KMS


Dear XXX XXXXX,



This message confirms that the sum of 1,800 Euro has been sent to you by Daniel Markus via Online Payment Services. Below are the instructions you must follow to get the money credited into your bank account. Please find the necessary Payment Details below:



Transaction Summary:



AutoMobile Amount 1,200,00 Euro

Transport Charges 600,00 Euro

Taxes And Insurance 00.00 Euro

Total 1,800 Euro


TRANSFER NUMBER SW3100571978KMS
Quantity 1
Automobile Title VAZ 2101 1.2 R4 44 kW -74


Transport Company ROYAL AGENCY COMPANY
Address Name:Maria Miller
Location:Royal Agency Company,
Postal Code:SE57EA,
City:London,
Country:United Kingdom.

Account Details for Remittance
Name: XXX XXXXX
IBAN:EE102200001122334455
Account Number:1122334455
SWIFT/BIC: HABAEE2X
Bank Name:SWEDBANK AS
Country :Estonia





NOTE: This is to confirm to you that the said amount has been successfully transferred by the Sender and been deducted from his Bank Account which is ready to be credited into your account, been that this Payment has been subjected to be a Payment for AUTOMOBILE purchased from you, we reserve the right to make sure this transaction is safe and secured also to verify the legitimacy level on this transaction because of the high sum of funds involved.

The above sum has Included the transport charges and taxes as we and the Transport Company quoted for the buyer (as per Bank of America® AUTOMOBILE PAYMENT POLICY ). You will receive a Message from the Bank of America® Customer Verification Department Shortly informing you on how to send the Transport fares and taxes to the transport company with the above details as soon as possible.

You may contact Bank of America® customer service by replying directly to this confirmation message and Quote the Above Transfer Number for quick recognition of this transaction.

Sincerely.
Bank of America Management.
17:06 09.05.2012
Lottotriin (registreerimata)
Re: Hoiatus: petturid ostjad UK-st
Tuli samuti pakkumine kod. E . brunhhuilt. Tekst on copy-paste. Ma arvasin et ma ei taha talle müüa: ). Krdi M-id. Kusjuures müügiautoks kah Lada
19:47 09.05.2012
buumar
Re: Hoiatus: petturid ostjad UK-st
Hello ,
I am Rolof Thomsen From United Kingdom,i will like to buy the car and
i Will like to know the cost of the car and the condition of the car
and i will be paying you through PayPal or Bank transfer. And i will take care
of all Shipment Preparations for the car to my home in :

Name :Rolof Thomsen
Address: 9B the Orchard
City: Blackheath
County: London
Post Code: SE30QS
Country: United Kingdom

Email me with more information about the car.And also get back to me
with the actual price you are willing to sell the car.

Thanks
Get to mail me back soon.

On 5/5/12, Raido wrote:
>
> Hello ,
> yes it is for sale !
>
> Date: Sat, 5 May 2012 03:01:01 +0300
> From: rolof.thomsen09@gmail.com
> To:
> Subject:
>
> Teile on saadetud lisainfo päring Kuldsest Börsist:
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> is it available for sale?
>
>
>
> Kuulutust näeb aadressil:
>
>
>
>
>
>


--
hello,
Just viewed your listing and will like to purchase it.Do you still
have this Auto available up for sale? Payment will be through PayPal
or Bank Transfer and the pick up will be arranged. kindly send me more
details about the condition of the Auto.Thanks and will be looking
forward to read from you soon.


Et tema on üks kes mulle kirjutanud ja paar kuud tagasi kirjutas ka iraagist
ohvitser nimega Cpt. Jim Ovia ja tahtis osta minu autot ilma seda nägemata ja nüüd käib peale walelelo31@gmail.com ja kasutab mingit tõlkeprogrammi ja saadab vigaseid eestikeelseid meile .
11:42 10.05.2012
kontrolli ennem üle (registreerimata)
Hoiatus: petturid ostjad UK-st

Eesti sõiduki liikluskindlustuse kindlustuskaitse kontrolliks sisesta sõiduki registreerimismärk või kindlustuspoliisi number, kuupäev ja kehtivusala.


Sõiduki tehasetähis
Eesti sõiduki liikluskindlustuse kindlustuskaitse kontrolliks sisesta sõiduki registreerimismärk või kindlustuspoliisi number, kuupäev ja kehtivusala.


Sõiduki tehasetähis WAUZZZ4F55N074778
Sõiduk ja kindlustuskaitse
Registreerimismärk 538BCR
Mark ja mudel AUDI A6
Riigi kood, mille registris sõiduk on EST
Kehtiv alates 21.12.2011 00:00
Kehtiv kuni Poliisi kehtivuse lõpp on tulevikus
Kehtivusala Euroopa Majanduspiirkonna lepinguriik või Šveits
Kindlustusandja asukohariik EST
Kindlustusandja
Kindlustusandja Seesam Insurance AS
Kindlustusandja kood J
Aadress Vambola 6, Tallinn 10114
Telefon +372 628 1800
Kahjutelefon +372 628 1770
Faks +372 631 2109
E-post liiklus@seesam.ee
Koduleht www.seesam.ee
Sõiduk ja kindlustuskaitse
Registreerimismärk 538BCR
Mark ja mudel AUDI A6
Riigi kood, mille registris sõiduk on EST
Kehtiv alates 21.12.2011 00:00
Kehtiv kuni Poliisi kehtivuse lõpp on tulevikus
Kehtivusala Euroopa Majanduspiirkonna lepinguriik või Šveits
Kindlustusandja asukohariik EST
Kindlustusandja
Kindlustusandja Seesam Insurance AS
Kindlustusandja kood J
Aadress Vambola 6, Tallinn 10114
Telefon +372 628 1800
Kahjutelefon +372 628 1770
Faks +372 631 2109
E-post liiklus@seesam.ee
Koduleht www.seesam.ee
18:44 14.05.2012
yg3
Re: Hoiatus: petturid ostjad UK-st
Selliselt meiliaadressilt nagu -doseelias1970@hotmail.com tuleb sama ostusooviga petuskeem. Esindab ennast Jose Eliasena.
19:29 14.05.2012
jew (registreerimata)
Re: Hoiatus: petturid ostjad UK-st
Mul tuli ka kuulutuse peale, et ostab kohe ära jne. Mul oli hea tuju ja vahetasin kodanikuga paar meili ja siis tuli üldse teine skeem välja. Et tema kapten afgaanis ja raha nagu muda mida ära vaja kantida:D Autot on tal vaja igaljuhul aga et ma aitaks tal oma raha ka ära toimetada.

mingi Captain Aziz Ovia vms. ta nimi oli.
15:32 15.05.2012
val56
Re: Hoiatus: petturid ostjad UK-st
leidsin kuulutuse, kus müüdi 2007a vw corolla verso-t hinnaga 5400eur
nüüdseks on kuulutus kadunud
telefoni numbrile helistades sai teate, et number on muutunud. saatsin talle kirja ja sellele vastati nii:

Mark Benson benson293@gmx.com
11:22 (4 tundi tagasi)

saajale mina

Good day,
The car is in perfect condition inside and outside as well,never been implicated in accidents.
I never smoke in it and i want to sell it to a serious person who will take very good care of it.
If you want to buy this car wich is extremely fast and dependable and also fun to drive, then
don't heistate to contact me back. I only take in consideration those buyers who are really interesed in
buying the car, to be sure that I don't spend my time with endless disscutions,or pure curiosity.

Thank you and i hope we can make a agreement together !!!


Vabandust, AGA minu In EI OLE NII hea. Ma elanud vaid lühikest aega Eestis.


Hea päev,
Auto on väga heas korras ja väljaspool ka, kunagi segatud õnnetusi.
Ma ei suitseta ja ma tahan seda müüa, et tõsine inimene, kes võtab väga head hoolt ta.
Kui soovite osta auto wich on väga kiire ja töökindel ja ka lõbus sõita, siis
ei heistate minuga tagasi. Ma vaid võtta arvesse need ostjad, kes on tõesti interesed
osta auto, et olla kindel, et ma ei kuluta oma aega lõputu disscutions või puhas uudishimu.

Aitäh ja ma loodan, et suudame teha leping koos!

Mida arvate, ise kahtustan pettust.

Muudetud 16.5.12 19:35

13:15 22.05.2012
A.S.D.service (registreerimata)
Re: Hoiatus: petturid ostjad UK-st
Mulle tuli sarnane mail, ja petturite andmed olid sellised '
ROYAL AGENCY Name:Vieten Guido & Maria Miller
Location:Royal Agency Company,
Postal Code:SE57EA,
City:London,
Country:United Kingdom
Mailid:Service@BankofAmerica.com ,BankofAmericatransferalerts@accountant.com ja guido.vieten52@googlemail.com
Need tüübid on Eestlased, saatsid mulle sõnumeid eesti numbrilt
13:33 22.05.2012
A.S.D.Service (registreerimata)
Re: Hoiatus: petturid ostjad UK-st
Müüad on enamasti reaalsed kuid petturid kasutavad inimeste kuulutused, ise müün präegu autot...
13:47 22.05.2012
A.S.D.ervice (registreerimata)
Re: Hoiatus: petturid ostjad UK-st
Väga sarnane kinnitus tuli mulle kaa....

The Online Transfer Order From Bank of America® Has Been Approved.

TRANSFER NUMBER: SW3100571978KMS


Dear XXXXX XXXXX,



This message confirms that the sum of 1,050,00 Euro has been sent to you by Vieten Guido via Online Payment Services. Below are the instructions you must follow to get the money credited into your bank account. Please find the necessary Payment Details below:


Transaction Summary:

AutoMobile Amount
650,00 Euro
Transport Charges 400,00 Euro
Taxes And Insurance

00.00 Euro



Total

1,050,00 Euro

TRANSFER NUMBER

SW3100571978KMS
Quantity 1
Automobile Title FORD xxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx



Transport Company
ROYAL AGENCY COMPANY
Address
Name:Maria Miller
Location:Royal Agency Company,
Postal Code:SE57EA,
City:London,
Country:United Kingdom.

Account Details for Remittance
Name:xxxxx xxxxxx
IBAN:EE000000000000,
SWIFT Code:HABAEE2X
Country:Estonia


NOTE: This is to confirm to you that the said amount has been successfully transferred by the Sender and been deducted from his Bank Account which is ready to be credited into your account, been that this Payment has been subjected to be a Payment for AUTOMOBILE purchased from you, we reserve the right to make sure this transaction is safe and secured also to verify the legitimacy level on this transaction because of the high sum of funds involved.

The above sum has Included the transport charges and taxes as we and the Transport Company quoted for the buyer (as per Bank of America® AUTOMOBILE PAYMENT POLICY ). You will receive a Message from the Bank of America® Customer Verification Department Shortly informing you on how to send the Transport fares and taxes to the transport company with the above details as soon as possible.

You may contact Bank of America® customer service by replying directly to this confirmation message and Quote the Above Transfer Number for quick recognition of this transaction.
Bank </DIV>of America Higher Standards Home
Sincerely.
Bank of America Management.
22:17 30.05.2012
Maaar (registreerimata)
Re: Hoiatus: petturid ostjad UK-st
Sama teema käsil hetkel (müün autot) ja sain ingliskeelse sms-i telefonilt +447017047767 , sõnumi sisuks: et kas mu auto on jätkuvalt saadaval ja sv, et vastaksin e-mailile: clarksonmark6@gmail.com. (Vastasin, et jah).
Ja siin siis vastus (huvitav, miks peaks automüüjat huvitama potensiaalse autoostja amet???)

Thanks for taking your time to contact me back,i am Mark Clarkson, am a Marine Engineer I'm satisfied with the condition of the auto. I will be paying you through PayPal in EURO which is a fast, safe and reliable method of payment.. And i will take care of all Shipment Preparations for the automobile to my home in,

Email me with the actual price you are willing to sell the vehicle.Here is my phone number below : +447017047767

Mark
21:28 31.05.2012
poland (registreerimata)
Re: Hoiatus: petturid ostjad UK-st
Mulle tuli ka SMS numbrilt +447572547576

ja soovis auto kohta lisainfot aadresslile clarksonmark6@gmail.com

..
vastan ka huvi pärast...(et kuhu maale jutt viib)
08:20 03.07.2012
sama tegelane mul ka (registreerimata)
Re: Hoiatus: petturid ostjad UK-st
Sama Guido Vieten, aga aadressilt gv1916@gmail.com
Ülejäänud tekst suht copy-paste.
23:25 04.07.2012
qp (registreerimata)
Re: Hoiatus: petturid ostjad UK-st
Maisa aru, mida te sügelete? Las kannavad vajaliku papi sinu arvele ja tulgu oma käulale järgi. Ja ongi kõik!
09:57 05.07.2012
t6nnp6nn
Re: Hoiatus: petturid ostjad UK-st
naiivitaridele olgu siis öeldud, et loomulikult mingit raha sa oma konto peal ei näe. Ütlevad, et saadavad raha kuskile inglise panka, kus see on väidetavalt "ootel" vms.
13:37 05.08.2012
guig (registreerimata)
Re: Hoiatus: petturid ostjad UK-st
vietenguido709@gmail.com

Selle e-maili pealt tegutseb samuti pettur ülaltoodud petuskeemidega.
22:04 08.08.2012
qp (registreerimata)
Re: Hoiatus: petturid ostjad UK-st
Kirjuta Guidole kiri, et saatsid auto ära ja see asub Antverpeni sadamas ootel. Et pane aga raha teele, siis lastakse auto lahti...
00:35 16.08.2012
alloo
Re: Hoiatus: petturid ostjad UK-st
Tegelase nimi on juba siin läbi käinud ja siis veel selline meiliaadress:

Teile on saadetud lisainfo päring Kuldsest Börsist:

Hello,

My name is Capt.Aziz Ovia I want to buy your Car. Please get back to me with your last price. Very urgent.

You can contact me my email address: captaziz1919@live.com

Best regards
Capt.Aziz Ovia

Kuulutust näeb aadressil:
http://www.kuldnebors.ee/14726835

Kirjutasin, et lõplik hind on 3600€ (ca 200€ rohkem kui kuulutuses), eks näis, mis nad vastavad
:))
12:43 15.09.2012
lauri23
Re: Hoiatus: petturid ostjad UK-st
You have been sent a request for more information from Kuldne Börs:

Hello,

My name is Major.Jim Ovia I want to buy your Car. Please get back to me with your last price. Very urgent.

You can contact me my email address: majorjim_ovia2010@outlook.com

Best regards
Major.Jim Ovia


Mail vähe teine aga kirja sisu sama. Saatsin ka siis oma viimase hinna talle :D
23:06 15.09.2012
peorein
Re: Hoiatus: petturid ostjad UK-st
You have been sent a request for more information from Kuldne Börs:

Hello,
My name is Major.Jim Ovia I want to buy your Car. Please get
back to me with your last price. Very urgent.

You can contact me my email address:
majorjim_ovia2010@outlook.com

Best regards

Major.Jim Ovia

Tuli ka selline kiri.

Ja vastus :

Hello

Thanks and I appreciate your response, please I would have loved to visibly inspect the vehicle but my present location and nature of my job will not allow me to do so, please kindly bear with me. From the looks and description of the vehicle, I am satisfied with it so I'm going to buy the vehicle at the price quoted.

But I have a business proposal for you.

I am Major with the United Nations troop in Iraq, on war against terrorism.

Based on the United States legislative and executive decision for withdrawing troops from Iraq, I have been deployed to come and work in your country's military base soonest. Our mission is to help beef up terrorist targeted states, mostly the United States and the European Union on the war against terrorism. I will need a car for myself and that is why I contacted you.

On the other hand I want to inform you that I have in my possession the sum of 16.2 million USD. Which I got from crude oil deal here in Iraq and I deposited this money with our Military Cargo agent informing him that I am making contact for the real owner of the money. It is under my power to approve whoever comes forth for this money.

I want to invest the money in your country as soon as I am deployed into your country for a good business, anyway you will advice me on that since I am not a businessperson. I cannot move this money to the United States because I will be in Europe for about 3years, so I need someone I could trust. If you accept, I will transfer the money to Europe where you will be the beneficiary because I am a uniformed person and I cannot be parading such an amount so I need to present someone as the beneficiary. I am an American and an intelligence officer for that so I have a 100% authentic means of transferring the money through our Military courier service. I just need your acceptance and all is done.

Please if you are interested in this transaction I will give to you the complete details you need for us to carry out this transaction successfully. I decided to find someone that is real and not imaginary and that is why I went to a secured car site where I can be sure that the person is real. I believe I can trust you. Where we are now we can only communicate through our military communication facilities, which are secured so nobody can monitor our emails, then I can explain in details to you. I will only reach you through email, because our calls might be monitored, and I just have to be sure whom I am dealing with.

So if you are interested please send me your personal mobile number so I can call you for further enquiries when I am out of our military network. I am writing from a fresh email account so if you are not interested do not reply to this email and please delete this message, if no response after 3days I will then search for someone else. I wait for your contact details so we can go on if you are interested and in less than 5days the money should have been noted on your account and I will come over for my money. I will give to you 30% of the sum and 70% is for me. I hope I am been fair on this deal.

Get back to me with your full information:

YOUR FULL NAME..........
YOUR FULL ADDRESS....................
YOUR DIRECT TELEPHONE NUMBER..........

Regards,

Major Jim Ovia

Muudetud 15.9.12 23:26

21:56 29.09.2012
Anda16
Re: Hoiatus: petturid ostjad UK-st
You have been sent a request for more information from Kuldne Börs:

hello sella is this car still for sale kindly mail me back at svictor787@gmail.com
thanks

tundub et ei väsi need artistid ,ilmselt on jätkuvalt inimesi kes usuvad et see on realne ostia!
22:25 29.09.2012
nii (registreerimata)
Re: Hoiatus: petturid ostjad UK-st
mulle tuli ka samalt aadressilt mingi 4 meili
02:46 18.11.2012
alloo
Re: Hoiatus: petturid ostjad UK-st
Lisan ka siia järgmise "kavalpea" andmed ja mulle saadetud meili:


Hi,

I am very interested in purchasing this from you. At present I am
currently out of town due to the work I do, I am based in Calais and
work as an engineer on ships. Now what I propose to you is this; Due
to the fact that I am so far away right now I will gladly transfer you
the amount via PayPal plus any excess transfer charges, what I would
then also do is arrange for a private courier company to pick up from
your address once you have received the payment into your Paypal
account. The reason I choose paypal is that it is a reliable and
secure way of making a payment online so works out better for both
parties.


Damien Renaud

103 Navigator Drive,
Southall -Middlesex, UB2 4UU,
United Kingdom
England
Date of Birth:
11-01-1960

So kindly get back to me with your PayPal details like this below

Full Name:
PayPal Email:
Phone Number:

As soon as i receive this details from you, i will proceed with the
payment immediately and after the payment as been completed the
shipping company will come immediately for the pick up..

Thanks


Minu vastus:
Not interested- CASH ONLY!!!

Selle peale saadeti veel paar meili.

Kuidas inimesed selliseid skeemitajaid usuvad ning pettagi saavad, jääb mulle arusaamatuks??
16:50 18.11.2012
Kärss
Re: Hoiatus: petturid ostjad UK-st
Ütleks kah sõna sekka. Esimesena aga seda, et kui sul endal on nii tõsine huvi mõne kusagil kaugel maal oleva auto vastu, et oleksid ka reaalselt valmis sellele kohe järgi minema, kas ise helistaksid või hakkaksid raiskama aega kirjutamise peale, riskides samas, et keegi kohalik selle vahepeal ära ostab? Ise olen alati helistanud, mõnikord on piisanud suusõnalisest broneerimisest, kuid korra olen maksnud ette isegi 100% auto hinna ja seejärel järgi läinud.

Neid petiste kirju on tulnud ikka hulgim, olen kõigile vastanud lühidalt, et Eestis on politsei inimesi teavitanud nendest petuskeemidest väga laialdaselt läbi ajakirjanduse ning mitte keegi ei maksa mingiteks transakuludeks kunagi mingeid ettemakse. Sellise vastuse peale pole ka kunagi rohkem lisaküsimusi saanud. Küll aga olen saanud hoopis huvitavama pakkumise, kus taheti ca 26K masina puhul teha selline diil, et mees tuleb kohale, et mina lunastagu tema tshekk 35K EURoga (tema maksab pangas tsheki kontrollimise kulud, mis pole sugugi väikesed) ja maksku talle pärast 9K eurot sulas. St tegu oli hoopis riigi petmise skeemiga, tahtis omale lisaks masinale saada ka musta sularaha, minult mingit sissemakset ei tahtnudki. St umbes sarnasel viisil tekitati sularaha ka Reformi rahastamiseks, kus enda arvelt ise välja võtta ei saa, kuid tehti vales summas diil ja lasti kellelgi teisel rohkem välja võtta. Mainisin jällegi politseid ja tema huvi kadus. Kõigele lisaks on suht hiljuti õnnestunud teha ka reaalne diil UK kodanikuga, kõigepealt helistas, tuli kohale, maksis sulas (uue Dacia jagu raha!) ja siis hoidsin hinge kinni, kui vasakpoolse rooliga meie liikluses minema sõitis, aga hakkama ta sai ja näha oli, et elus esimest korda parempoolse liiklusega riigis ei sõitnud. St ei maksa päris kõiki kah petisteks pidada, kuid kirjasõpru tasub otsida pigem mujalt kui automüügikuulutuste abil :))
21:33 15.11.2018
Laast123 (registreerimata)
Re: Hoiatus: petturid ostjad UK-st
Lisan veel ühe aadressi kust sarnast skeemi üritatakse ajada
christiancaspar120@gmail.com
07:11 16.11.2018
A! (registreerimata)
Re: Hoiatus: petturid ostjad UK-st
Üle-eelmise postituse koha pealt ei saanudki nüüd hästi aru, et mis kahju oleks kodanik Kärss kannatanud, kui oleks aidanud sellel härral tsekki lunastada? Olid need siis eetilised või riigitruudusest(UK omast või?) kantud põhimõtted või mis variandid veel kõne alla tuleks. Värisema oleks pidanud pigem teine osapool, kas sa ikka annad talle tema nutsaku tagasi või ostiski kogemata asja kümme tuhhi kallimalt , )

Ehk olen veidi rikutud mõtlemisega, aga isiklikult oleks ilma igasugu sisemiste piinadeta pakutud raha vastu võtnud. Sina saad ju oma masinast lahti, ehk veel kopika pealegi kaubelda. Pärast kui midagi ongi, siis ütled, et tegid viimase minuti allahindlust. Põhimõtteliselt on sul õigus oma vara kasvõi ühe euro eest müüa, või isegi tasuta ära anda. See on ju täiesti igaühe oma asi, mis hinnaga keegi omale auto ostab, või müüb, kui teine osapool nõus on. Tihtipeale tuleb uudiseid, et on jälle müüdud jumal teab mis imeraha eest mingeid vanu, tihtipeale katkisi masinaid ja keegi ei kobise.
08:42 16.11.2018
maaks
Re: Hoiatus: petturid ostjad UK-st
Loomulikult tasub võõraste inimeste eest pangatehinguid teha, nende jaoks sula välja võtta jne. :-)
Pärast ei ole vaja ainult imestada, mis kapo tänaval maha väänab ja platepeale viib.
12:03 16.11.2018
k... (registreerimata)
Re: Hoiatus: petturid ostjad UK-st
Polnud olemas mingit 35 kilo. Lihtsalt mingi paber väitis, et on, sina aga maksad talle omast taskust selle 9 kilo, annad auto ka niisama pealekauba, et ta nüüd kiirelt kaduda saaks ja jääd rahulolevalt kamina ette istudes ootama, millal see 35 sinu arvele kukub...
12:43 16.11.2018
....... (registreerimata)
Re: Hoiatus: petturid ostjad UK-st
Tšekkidega pidigi olema see teema, et selle kehtivuse kindlakstegemine ja lunastamine meie pankades on pikk protsess. Netis juttu küllaga.
15:21 16.11.2018
Kärss
Re: Hoiatus: petturid ostjad UK-st
Ei oska kommenteerida, kuna polnud siis ega ole ka praegu huvi osaleda mingites kahtlastes skeemides. Väideti, et "siis kui raha on mu arvele laekunud" ja lubati ise füüsiliselt kohale tulla. See paneb arvama, et vbl oligi reaalne rahapesusoov, aga kuniks seda reaalselt juhtunud pole, ongi vaid oleks ja poleks. Suhtun asjasse nii, et ma ei käinud koolis sellepärast, et hakata tegelema mingite lihtlabaste (riigi)vargustega. Jäägu see neile, kellel on valikuid vähem või vajadus raha järele suurem.

See UK tüübile auto müümine on siiski reaalne juhtum. Ma arvan, et lühike vastus "cashonly ning auto kõrval" eraldab terad sõkaldest kõige lihtsamini. Müüja ainus risk on vaid auto (tasuta) broneerimine selleks ajaks, kuni tüüp Eestisse lendab. Aga seekord risk õigustas ennast ja kui helistaja ikka normaalset juttu ajab, võtan ka tulevikus sellise riski, mis tegelikult pole ju üldse mainimistväärtki riskina.

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